On The Red Hand Files, a fan asked Nick Cave what his favourite podcast was, and he answered…

…with a history show. Which some of you will know is catnip to your scribe.

It’s The Rest Is History, and here’s his explanation:

“Anyone who thinks there is a right and a wrong side of history has never listened to Tom Holland and Dominic Sandbrook’s The Rest is History… This splendid podcast shows us that history is extraordinarily complicated and rarely draws a clean line between right and wrong, good and evil.”

“Much of history seems to be a violent collision of good intentions, and sometimes what appears ethically obvious today has its way of turning tomorrow. History reflects our shambolic nature and is seldom settled, stable, or simple.”